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Jess: Hey JoAnna

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JoAnna: Hey Jess

Jess: So
i've been trying to think of things to ask you
they just want us to talk about anything i believe

JoAnna: you aren't going to ask me about bathtubs, k?  

Jess: haha
definitely won't ask about bathtubs
ok
when did you start playing music?

JoAnna: when I was about 7 years old, I started playing a violin my grandpa got me for 100 bucks from a nun in mankato.
Then when i was a freshman, I began to play guitar and was convinced I'd be in Guitar World someday for my rendition of Jimi Hendrix's 'Little Wing'
...that didn't work out so well, though...

Jess: the intro to little wing was about the height of my guitar playing
i really never got past that

JoAnna: me neither...

Jess: are there a lot of nuns in mankato?
that you know of?

JoAnna: yes, TONS of NUNS!

Jess: a convent?

JoAnna: No, just lots of Catholics

Jess: i like the idea of a convent being a unit of measurement: a convent's worth of nuns
though there apparently is not one in mankato

JoAnna: There probably is one...but sinners like me ain't allowed near.

Jess: how did you get into song writing?
did you first want to learn things like little wing
or were you always thinking it would be something you did in terms of creating your own things?

JoAnna: Good question. I got into songwriting because I love pain.

Jess: i would say that's why i started writing as well
that and it feels very good when it works out

JoAnna: There's just nothing else like it, and it's the most universal of human experiences. I like getting inside of it, getting to the core, and then releasing it.
Writing can be some of the best therapy available.

Jess: i agree
and a cause for much anxiety
...
what is your creative process like?

JoAnna: it don't involve no ibuprofen that's for sure.

Jess: what comes first?
a melody?
a lyric?
an emotion?

JoAnna: Melodies and guitar parts usually come first...after some sort of emotional experience

Jess: do you feel like the melody is paramount to the lyrics?  vice-versa?

JoAnna: Words are slow to arrive, if at all...that's why I very much enjoy instrumental composition.

Jess: I guess I'm wondering if you have to sacrifice one of them, which would it be?
words i'm guessing
yeah i think lyrics are so hard to write

JoAnna: They definitely reflect each other. The trick is to not have them be too obvious a reflection

Jess: do you ever feel demeaned, as a songwriter, by people complimenting a songwriter by calling them a poet?
like "bob dylan is such a poet"

JoAnna: no, because music is just poetry in motion baby, sonic motion

Jess: haha
i'm interested in what you said before
about reflection
so music suggests a mood and the mood suggests lyrics and you try consciously to keep the lyrics from containing too obvious a suggestion?
from the music
does that make sense?
put another way:  are you looking for friction in your songs?
what would you say you look to portray through your songs?
JoAnna: I would say I look to portray a story within my voice. For instance, you can sing a word like "love" and have it mean so many completely different things all in the context of how exactly you sing it, play it and write around it.

Jess: definitely

JoAnna: The way phrases are sung is the thing I understand best about music
not necessarily the words or the melodies, but the ways in which they are performed
like if Otis Redding sang "twinkle twinkle little star"...

Jess: haha
i would love to hear that

JoAnna: I'd be on the floor from a heart attack
because his voice would be telling more than the words

Jess: do you think that your vocal performance changes from show to record to show depending on your mood?
and how many takes do you do of a song in the studio?
how do you know if it's acceptable?
I'm really curious about recording

JoAnna: I do think it changes. so much of what happens during a performance of a song--whether live or in the studio--is dependent upon the energy of the room. Thus, in the studio--unless you have some sort of live studio audience like SNL or something--it's very difficult to find that energy. That's why I find it extremely challenging to capture certain magical things in the studio--the audience is so crucial to how I perform

Jess: is performance your favorite part of the job?

JoAnna: Yes. I think the reason being is music is an interaction. Soul to soul, you know?

Jess: yeah definitely
i love going to shows
especially when the people playing love to perform
photo by D.L. Nelson
InDialogue: JoAnna James and Jess Grover
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The Following discussion occured between poet Jess Grover and musician JoAnna James over Gmail chat
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